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You have not made the case that Weiss is in error and woke populism is not the greater threat than Trump and MAGA populism, at least to Jews. Quoting from online pundits who agree with you that right populism is the greater threat is not proof, or is insufficient to prove your argument.

Some facts you are aware but have left out.

Andrew Sullivan linked to a NY Magazine Intelligencer column the week he and Times OpEd editor, James Bennet were fired.

Weiss called this a war between woke antisemites and older “institutionalists” at the Times. The Intelligencer made it clear that those the column labeled ” insurrectionists” want to ban speech it disliked and construct news the Times printed to comport with false narratives this tribe asserted were righteous. This distorted, ideological news coverage was confirmed in a Bar Ilan study ( I believe you covered )and can be seen in the Times decisions to print Anti-Jewish op-eds but also in its biased coverage of the Amsterdam pogrom, where it blamed the victims but never once mentioned that the perpetrators were Arabic speaking, ( almost certainly ) Moroccan Muslims.

Is it only the right banning ideas? The documentary October 8 could not find representation. Studios would not support it. The Academy’s documentary division refused to send it to its members. Would you define this as banning ideas? I would.

In book publishing, in main stream magazines and intellectual, non-academic outlets like the NYROB, will not publish essays that are pro-Jewish. No academic journal will print pro-Jewish articles. No citations, no published articles? There goes your academic career before it’s begun. Even established writers will shy away from the Frey for fear of cancelation. The number of congressional staffers, PR associates, foreign relations interns all have heavy anti-Jewish biases. The DSA litmus test on Jews may be closer than you care to admit. The post- modernist, social justice hordes have not yet taken over the Democratic Party but the rise of a Corbyn is not hard to imagine or far away. Fear is so great that self-censorship is a significant issue.

All over social media and in elite academic institutions religious dogma is indoctrinated into students too distracted to read. Not even Adoral can overcome this disinclination. Haidt called this group hyper-tribal and postulated they were desperate to belong to the group while fearful of any idea or fact that called into question their well meaning assumptions about power, race or social justice. Post-colonialism rules and the asserted facts that Jews are imperialist invaders, settler-colonialists, white passing, wealthy, privileged elites with hidden power who should not have the right to speech, assembly or petition their government could cone out or the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Indeed, this Czarist work of fiction was dominant in post’67 Soviet anti-Jewish propaganda that gives us these dogmatic perception that Jews are evil.

Jews have the right to die but not to resist that existential determination that they should at the very least have no agency but best if Jews passively accept their fate since they stand in the way of the new Millennium.

Trump is a dangerous actor on whom to place your trust. But might Trump be less dangerous than these post-modern insurrectionists for Jews? Is Weiss exercising editorial judgement as an editor, as a journalist who has observed how irrational and powerful these woke, insurrectionists have become? Is she viewing this as an old fashioned, lesbian liberal who sees this anti-Judaism as the greater threat than, perhaps, you do? Or is she viewing this reality from the lens of a Jew in a post-Holocaust world with Jews denied access to professions, public spaces or news that escapes tribal distortion shaping it into a false, anti-Jewish narrative.

I am certainly sympathetic to Weiss’ view. More importantly, you have not debunked that view and shown her judgement is erroneous. You have asserted it is wrong. You have asserted Trump is the greater threat. You may be right. But for Jews the calculus may be different. For Weiss who watched these “insurrectionists” bully their editors into shaping the Times coverage of Jews that fit an ancient anti-Jewish narrative might be forgive if she thinks these barbarians need to be confronted. It is a return to the 1920s where both political parties are anti-Jewish and antisemetic. What is your political strategy as a Jew when both major parties in a two party system are disinterested in and antithetical to your self-interest and self-preservation? You seek out the lesser of the two evils and you may be very wrong in that tactical judgement. As the old Democratic warriors fade the tactics of slowly devouring institutions gives me pause if the Democratic Party is salvageable home for Jews. Risking that Trump is less bad than these “insurrectionists” may be a rational decision given the open, normalized anti-Jewish hostility from these spoiled, affluent elites growing both in strength and institutional power.

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Benjy Shyovitz's avatar

You know what’s actually a grift? Trying to reap engagement and clout by attacking successful publications with spurious accusations full of hyperbolic and inflammatory language.

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