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"It is one thing to oppose the injustice of the health insurance industry. But if we dismiss the humanity of people who work in it or celebrate their deaths, we risk becoming the monsters we claim to oppose."

Honest question, Ben. Very interested in your reply.

If "health insurance industry" were replaced with "the Hamas attackers of Oct 7" or "Nazis" or "KKK", would you advocate we focus on the humanity with which they caused so many to die?

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"I am vehemently opposed to the health insurance industry in America. It is a grotesquely dysfunctional, inefficient system that screws millions of people out of health care each year."

Ben, the part you keep leaving out is that it's dysfunctional *by design*.

Saying it's dysfunctional and inefficient makes it sound like it's just incompetently run. That the bad outcomes are an unfortunate result of the people running the industry not being good at their jobs. When the truth is they're quite good at their jobs which are to maximize shareholder profits by any means possible including denying claims that rightly should be paid.

In your recent Emergency Meeting podcast and here you're avoiding holding CEOs and other insurance executives responsible at all for their actions and decisions.

"[Brian Thompson] wasn’t spending his days plotting to kill Americans by denying them access to care, he was running a business that conformed to general industry standards."

First, the "spending his days plotting" is a cartoonish straw man. Nobody has said he sat at his desk, cackling over his latest plan to harm people and you shouldn't conjure up an image designed to make it sound like they had. He wasn't gleefully plotting to kill but the deaths he caused harm was the very foreseeable consequence of the policies and systems he put in place.

If the industry standard is "treat Jews like vermin" would that excuse the people who did? Hyperbolic example but the point remains. You're excusing someone who was instrumental in perpetuating horrible things because "that's the way things are done."

There is *nothing* preventing Thompson or any other CEO from saying "The standards for our industry, putting profit over lives, are abhorrent and immoral. We won't follow them. We'll do better." But they CHOOSE not to. They MAKE THE CHOICE to cause suffering and death. And you should at least acknowledge that rather than continue to make excuses for them.

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