2020 is not 2016. And Drumpf is not some shiny new, but very defective, toy, but a proven incompetent criminal who has destroyed everything good in America and still shows no remorse for it.
The people are sick and tired of this bullshit. They WILL come out to vote him, and the complicit GOP, out of office in November. Count on it!
The misplaced certainty you have that Trump will lose is very much exactly like 2016.
Likely, even very likely, that he’ll lose? Yeah.
But certain? When, despite all the reasons EVERY voter should want him not just out of office but tried for a lengthy list of serious crimes, he STILL has the support he has? When the voter suppression efforts are still just beginning to ramp up?
No. The idea that “they WILL vote him out” is as 2016 as the idea that “they’ll NEVER vote him in.”
You just enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing, dontcha?
Joe Biden is NOT Hillary Clinton! And Incumbent Drumpf is NOT the same as Candidate Drumpf!
And the voters today are not the same as they were four years ago! They are living the nightmare Drumpf's created as a result of them "electing" him by a margin of MINUS three million votes, in a perfect storm of situations that allowed this scum to take the White House. Voters have shown in the primaries that they will stand in line for hours risking their health from COVID-19, ready to make a change back to normality.
And, as well, with plenty of moderate Republicans and the majority of Sanders supporters backing him up, Biden's chances of victory in November are as strong as Johnson's in '64, Nixon's in '72, and Reagan's in '84, no matter how much ratfucking the GOP and their Russian pals attempt to try and pull off.
So don't give me your bull about how Drumpf's chances are much stronger than they appear to be. If you're THAT concerned about November, then do something about it instead of concern trolling others here.
“You just enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing, dontcha?”
No, what I’m doing is disagreeing with you. That you’re unable to deal with that is childish. (One could say your reacting much as Trump would.)
Particularly since I’m not even disagree with you that much. Yes, it does look like Trump defeated is the likely outcome.
But it’s not a certainty.
His base is fanatically unmovable. Relying even in part on Sanders supporters (a large part of which are self-righteous purity warriors). And the effects of Russian meddling and Republican cheating should not be handwaved away.
Your final paragraph is as ridiculously pathetic as your first one. I have no need to list for you the activities I’m involved in (in some cases organizing) in an effort to ensure people CAN and DO actually come out and vote against Trump. But you continue your whines here because someone only agrees with you 90%. I’m sure that’s equally effective in swaying folks to your side.
2020 is not 2016. And Drumpf is not some shiny new, but very defective, toy, but a proven incompetent criminal who has destroyed everything good in America and still shows no remorse for it.
The people are sick and tired of this bullshit. They WILL come out to vote him, and the complicit GOP, out of office in November. Count on it!
And Clinton was a shoe-in in 2016.
Oh, right.
Read my first sentence!
The misplaced certainty you have that Trump will lose is very much exactly like 2016.
Likely, even very likely, that he’ll lose? Yeah.
But certain? When, despite all the reasons EVERY voter should want him not just out of office but tried for a lengthy list of serious crimes, he STILL has the support he has? When the voter suppression efforts are still just beginning to ramp up?
No. The idea that “they WILL vote him out” is as 2016 as the idea that “they’ll NEVER vote him in.”
You just enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing, dontcha?
Joe Biden is NOT Hillary Clinton! And Incumbent Drumpf is NOT the same as Candidate Drumpf!
And the voters today are not the same as they were four years ago! They are living the nightmare Drumpf's created as a result of them "electing" him by a margin of MINUS three million votes, in a perfect storm of situations that allowed this scum to take the White House. Voters have shown in the primaries that they will stand in line for hours risking their health from COVID-19, ready to make a change back to normality.
And, as well, with plenty of moderate Republicans and the majority of Sanders supporters backing him up, Biden's chances of victory in November are as strong as Johnson's in '64, Nixon's in '72, and Reagan's in '84, no matter how much ratfucking the GOP and their Russian pals attempt to try and pull off.
So don't give me your bull about how Drumpf's chances are much stronger than they appear to be. If you're THAT concerned about November, then do something about it instead of concern trolling others here.
Victor out!
“You just enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing, dontcha?”
No, what I’m doing is disagreeing with you. That you’re unable to deal with that is childish. (One could say your reacting much as Trump would.)
Particularly since I’m not even disagree with you that much. Yes, it does look like Trump defeated is the likely outcome.
But it’s not a certainty.
His base is fanatically unmovable. Relying even in part on Sanders supporters (a large part of which are self-righteous purity warriors). And the effects of Russian meddling and Republican cheating should not be handwaved away.
Your final paragraph is as ridiculously pathetic as your first one. I have no need to list for you the activities I’m involved in (in some cases organizing) in an effort to ensure people CAN and DO actually come out and vote against Trump. But you continue your whines here because someone only agrees with you 90%. I’m sure that’s equally effective in swaying folks to your side.
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