Multiple high ranking intelligence officials have confirmed the existence of more than 12 alien space craft on earth. Their claims are extraordinary, but are they true?
My Dad was career CIA (OSS before that) took his oath seriously and his secrets to the grave. However, in the 90s he told me that he'd seen the Roswell autopsy reports when they passed through his desk in 1947 (security services were less territorial in those days, so the Air Force sent the info to the CIA as a head's up.) I believed a lot of New Agey things in those days, but aliens were a stretch for me. What convinced me was my Mom's side of the story. Dad apparently sneaked back into the office after hours and read the whole thing cover to cover. Then he came home and sat on the edge of the bed all night, too rattled to sleep. The only reason they told me that story was because Roswell started to be covered in the popular media in the 80s and 90s, and he figured it had been "leaked" enough that he was clear to talk about it. Pretty freaky stuff.
I feel the same way, as a scientist. I've long acknowledged we are not alone, but like the author, I remain skeptical. Now, I accept the probability that we are being probed by intelligent life but have a hard time conceding to actual physical visits. Let's just say there are limitations to propulsion (and spacecraft size) and the sheer distances are a problem for any life form that is wedded to time itself. The only other possibility involves manipulating time, and I have every reason to think that is not possible on a universal level.
I'm not a physicist so can't weigh in on that with any certainty, but imagine explaining to someone in the 16th century what quantum computing was, or AI, or even traveling faster than the speed of sound. It would sound absolutely insane and completely impossible. There are no real laws on physics, just mathematical theories that appear to corroborate with the observable universe. What we think is impossible might be completely trivial for an older and more advanced civilization.
Is there life “out there”? Certainly. The universe, even just our one galaxy, is immense, diverse, and filled with planets. And life, even just looking at the narrow sample we have on this one planet we’re on, is diverse, amazingly adaptable, and utterly unwilling to be restrained. Where there is a place and energy, there is life.
Has alien life ever visited Earth? If you mean microbes drifting down from passing comets or having hitched a ride on an meteorite, maybe.
If you mean intelligent built-a-ship-to-get-here life, almost certainly not. The distances involved and resources needed to cross them make the trip far, far, FAR, more difficult than people realize, even when they think they’ve taken those into account. One need also only look to the Drake equation to see the odds of there being an alien civilization in our part of the galaxy, let alone one capable of reaching us, are fantastically low. A depressing thought to any, like myself, who grew up on dreams of “the final frontier” and meeting what’s out there but, well, math.
As Ben notes, extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. And while credible seeming people may be saying there is solid evidence, it would have to be examined in detail by several independent teams of scientists and all other possible explanations found to be lacking before we should get any hopes up.
We talk about a lot of this in the podcast. I take your point, but as I mentioned in the comment above, what we deem to be impossible could be quite trivial to another more advanced civilization. Time travel is impossible (or near to impossible) given our current understanding of physics, but scientific paradigms shatter and shift all the time. Who knows what a far older, more intelligent species might have discovered?
I'll have to catch the podcast this week. (Never miss an article, but only occasional podcast listener.)
Certainly beings with more advanced knowledge than us could do with ease what we consider impossible. What we accept as commonplace these days (I have a device that fits in my pocket which gives me instant access to the collected knowledge of mankind) would be the stuff of unimaginable futuristic science fiction just a few decades ago. But I find it difficult to imagine that any beings capable of traveling to here would do so only to not make themselves known. Or, given their capabilities, if they didn't want to be known would allow themselves to be spotted.
I fervently wish we had proof of life out there (or that had come here). But so far, from what I've heard, nobody has yet to actually provide anything other than stories.
I'm weighing in late on this discussion, but an author who has always fascinated me on this topic is astronomer Jacques Vallée. He started out wanting to explore the extraterrestrial hypothesis but after studying the field, he became intrigued with the congruence of ET stories with some of the folklore about interactions with "fairies" or other similar entities. He thinks these entities have been associated with the planet since before human civilization … And that they might not be extraterrestrial, that they "travel" might be more dimensional. I don't know one way or another, but I think it's an interesting contribution to the discussion. Thanks for bringing this up.
"Grusch hasn’t seen the aircraft himself, or the alien body one source told him existed. We don’t have photos or official government documents either (they are, as Grusch told reporters, highly classified)" So as usual, no compelling evidence, not even a blurry poorly imaged video of a craft of extraterrestrial. They ain't coming here, because they cant come here. There is a universal speed limit and if you don't like it, take it up with Albert Einstein. If you are interested in an explanation of the recent videos released by the government, please see any videos by Mick West. Here is an abbreviated explanation by Mick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le7Fqbsrrm8&ab_channel=CoolWorlds
Indeed. And without anything other than their word, I don't care how credible the source. They got nothin'
As for taking the universal speed limit up with Einstein, his theory does predict the existence of wormholes. So it is conceivable to cut the time needed for the journey.
My Dad was career CIA (OSS before that) took his oath seriously and his secrets to the grave. However, in the 90s he told me that he'd seen the Roswell autopsy reports when they passed through his desk in 1947 (security services were less territorial in those days, so the Air Force sent the info to the CIA as a head's up.) I believed a lot of New Agey things in those days, but aliens were a stretch for me. What convinced me was my Mom's side of the story. Dad apparently sneaked back into the office after hours and read the whole thing cover to cover. Then he came home and sat on the edge of the bed all night, too rattled to sleep. The only reason they told me that story was because Roswell started to be covered in the popular media in the 80s and 90s, and he figured it had been "leaked" enough that he was clear to talk about it. Pretty freaky stuff.
Fascinating Valerie. I've heard numerous stories like this. I have no reason to doubt your dad's story. No idea what to make of any of it.
I feel the same way, as a scientist. I've long acknowledged we are not alone, but like the author, I remain skeptical. Now, I accept the probability that we are being probed by intelligent life but have a hard time conceding to actual physical visits. Let's just say there are limitations to propulsion (and spacecraft size) and the sheer distances are a problem for any life form that is wedded to time itself. The only other possibility involves manipulating time, and I have every reason to think that is not possible on a universal level.
I'm not a physicist so can't weigh in on that with any certainty, but imagine explaining to someone in the 16th century what quantum computing was, or AI, or even traveling faster than the speed of sound. It would sound absolutely insane and completely impossible. There are no real laws on physics, just mathematical theories that appear to corroborate with the observable universe. What we think is impossible might be completely trivial for an older and more advanced civilization.
Long answer:
Is there life “out there”? Certainly. The universe, even just our one galaxy, is immense, diverse, and filled with planets. And life, even just looking at the narrow sample we have on this one planet we’re on, is diverse, amazingly adaptable, and utterly unwilling to be restrained. Where there is a place and energy, there is life.
Has alien life ever visited Earth? If you mean microbes drifting down from passing comets or having hitched a ride on an meteorite, maybe.
If you mean intelligent built-a-ship-to-get-here life, almost certainly not. The distances involved and resources needed to cross them make the trip far, far, FAR, more difficult than people realize, even when they think they’ve taken those into account. One need also only look to the Drake equation to see the odds of there being an alien civilization in our part of the galaxy, let alone one capable of reaching us, are fantastically low. A depressing thought to any, like myself, who grew up on dreams of “the final frontier” and meeting what’s out there but, well, math.
As Ben notes, extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. And while credible seeming people may be saying there is solid evidence, it would have to be examined in detail by several independent teams of scientists and all other possible explanations found to be lacking before we should get any hopes up.
We talk about a lot of this in the podcast. I take your point, but as I mentioned in the comment above, what we deem to be impossible could be quite trivial to another more advanced civilization. Time travel is impossible (or near to impossible) given our current understanding of physics, but scientific paradigms shatter and shift all the time. Who knows what a far older, more intelligent species might have discovered?
I'll have to catch the podcast this week. (Never miss an article, but only occasional podcast listener.)
Certainly beings with more advanced knowledge than us could do with ease what we consider impossible. What we accept as commonplace these days (I have a device that fits in my pocket which gives me instant access to the collected knowledge of mankind) would be the stuff of unimaginable futuristic science fiction just a few decades ago. But I find it difficult to imagine that any beings capable of traveling to here would do so only to not make themselves known. Or, given their capabilities, if they didn't want to be known would allow themselves to be spotted.
I fervently wish we had proof of life out there (or that had come here). But so far, from what I've heard, nobody has yet to actually provide anything other than stories.
Short answer:
You haven’t found proof of our existence yet. What makes you think we’d let you do so now?
I'm weighing in late on this discussion, but an author who has always fascinated me on this topic is astronomer Jacques Vallée. He started out wanting to explore the extraterrestrial hypothesis but after studying the field, he became intrigued with the congruence of ET stories with some of the folklore about interactions with "fairies" or other similar entities. He thinks these entities have been associated with the planet since before human civilization … And that they might not be extraterrestrial, that they "travel" might be more dimensional. I don't know one way or another, but I think it's an interesting contribution to the discussion. Thanks for bringing this up.
"Grusch hasn’t seen the aircraft himself, or the alien body one source told him existed. We don’t have photos or official government documents either (they are, as Grusch told reporters, highly classified)" So as usual, no compelling evidence, not even a blurry poorly imaged video of a craft of extraterrestrial. They ain't coming here, because they cant come here. There is a universal speed limit and if you don't like it, take it up with Albert Einstein. If you are interested in an explanation of the recent videos released by the government, please see any videos by Mick West. Here is an abbreviated explanation by Mick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le7Fqbsrrm8&ab_channel=CoolWorlds
I find Mick West's videos/Tweet threads very helpful. Important to be skeptical.
"So as usual, no compelling evidence"
Indeed. And without anything other than their word, I don't care how credible the source. They got nothin'
As for taking the universal speed limit up with Einstein, his theory does predict the existence of wormholes. So it is conceivable to cut the time needed for the journey.