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JP MEYER's avatar

It baffles me and makes me furious that all former high office Government Officials

Think: (Presidents, Sec of State, Vice Presidents, Senators, Speakers of the House, Senate Pro Tempore, Secs of Treasury and Defense, Attorney Generals, Heads of State, Ambassadors, Generals, Admirals) why aren't they all protesting and screaming from the rooftops that this is Treason? If those once very powerful people would take distinct action as a large group to stop this insanity, we may have some hope. As it is, the 'little ' people protesting on the streets won't make any change. BIG, LARGE, POWERFUL, RICH, FORMER FOLKS WHO ALL SWORE TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION NEED TO SPEAK UP AND ACT OUT!!

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Sophie Nusslé's avatar

You’re wrong. Millions of little people, as you call yourself, weigh much more. They also encourage those ex-professionals you mention.

But it has to be frequent and consistent. Daily, disciplined and unrelenting, as it was during the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia in 1989, and every other successful popular movement. It has to extend to many other organised actions of civil disobedience.

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Kels's avatar

The Trump Playbook is to rotate cabinet members like rotting vegetables in and out of the display case. Hegseth, Noem, Oz, they'll all be turfed and replaced. The one that keeps me up at night is Musk, who will sneak back to the shadows and begin a billion dollar PR campaign to breathe life into Tesla, but the media and the judicial system (what's left of it) need to NEVER forget that he accessed and stole the most sensitive data on the planet. The personal, SS, credit, and banking information (plus I imagine legal records) of every single person in the country. The most valuable data tech companies could ever dream of. And he has it to use, deploy, and weaponize as he sees fit. I can see Elon and his minions blackmailing future administrations or sworn enemies for generations. No government contract for Elon, he shuts down our entire communications and banking system. Turns off energy grids. Commits super targeted or wide-scale identity theft, fraud, and blackmail. Forces individual consumers to "buy a Tesla or else".

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Joseph Campo's avatar

I wonder what the Vegas odds are now? After this recent reveal of sharing signal messages with family, must be pretty short odds.

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Simon Sobo's avatar

Do you really thinkClinton didn't talk to Hillary or JFK didn't talk to Robert, and Ted before they held offices. Or Obama didn't talk to Michelle. Give me a break.

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Sophie Nusslé's avatar

I’m pretty sure they didn’t share details of national security attack information in real time on a commercial channel. Nor, for that matter, did any past Republican administration.

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Simon Sobo's avatar

I agree they were sloppy and I am sure it won't be repeated but I was addressing the sharing with family part. Fortunately Hegseth and company lucked out. No dmage done. The real issue is they are gunning for him and it has nothing to do with his stupidity. He was valedictorian of his high school and then went to Princeton and Harvard. It is that he is the real deal. He passionately believes in what he is doing. He volunteered for combat duty twice and then got very upset at the way veterans were being treated so that was his next job was to head a veterans organization. He knows war intimately, the horrors, what actually goes on, the sacrifices soldiers have made for the country. Their courage, their fear-he’s been there. He hasn’t forgotten. I want that in my Defense Secretary.

He fought for the rights of veterans as executive director of Vets for Freedom for five years. Then headed an organization called Concerned Veterans for America which sought to give veterans benefits for private health care rather than the V.A. He is attuned to the dissatisfactions of our soldiers with the uppity ups running things, for example the Department of Defense’s recent emphasis on DEI and elevating climate change as a national security priority.Much other political garbage that has nothing to with fighting effectiveness. He blames their priorities for a fall off of Americans willing to serve.

Hegseth’s advocacy for veterans has extended to those soldiers who many soldiers feel have been wrongly accused of a crime and imprisoned. For months in 2019 he privately tried to convince Trump to free three veterans who killed civilians . Army Lieutenant Clint Lorance was convicted for a military operation in 2012 in which he ordered his soldiers to open fire on a group of unarmed Afghan civilians he suspected of being insurgents. In one version of the story, one of those killed was holding a grenade launcher but wasn’t pointing it at the soldiers. Hegseth argued that Lieutenant Lorance was unfairly targeted by military prosecutors and that his actions were justified in a combat environment where split-second decisions were often necessary for survival.

Lorance had served six years of a 19-year sentence before Trump, after lobbying from Hegseth and others, granted him a pardon in Nov. 2019. The other two cases were similar . These cases were emblematic of what Hegseth saw as a broader pattern of military prosecutors and officials unfairly targeting service members who had made difficult battlefield decisions. He argued that the military justice system was too quick to prosecute and too eager to appease public opinion, particularly from liberal critics of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Hegseth’s critics claim that Trump’s pardons are a dangerous precedent, allowing politicians to interfere with military matters. These critics make no mention of our woke executive branch making clear exactly what priorities they expect from military leaders. One of Biden’s fondest stories is how the joint chief of staff told him that global warming is the greatest threat to American security. Weapons of war can be reduced. The money should go to handling the climate. That is not political interference. It is wise generals.

Hegseth will not be put off. Since his appointment he has promised to get rid of the generals who have implemented DEI, who have placed a strong emphasis on global warming as a menace. He wants to clean out the entire department and return it to an emphasis on an effective fighting force.

Yes he has had some drunken episodes. He and his veteran buddies once got on their tablestage and drunknely whooped it up at a club. At that point he was not angling to be a politician. There were other incidents. He twice left his wives for a new love affair.I would not trust him with my daughters. He can get carried awy. but as far as him not being a bullshitting lying politician who will say anything or more pointedly not say anything that he truly believes. I trust his type more. Hegseth, before he knew he was going to be someone who actually governed , was ahead of the curve in trying to undue the absolute nonsense and dishonesty that passes for political competence. To change things requires willingness to dive into the controversial. Long before attacking the elite at Harvard became a cause on the right he mailed back is diploma to Harvard. In June 2022, on a Fox & Friends Weekend segment, Hegseth crossed out Harvard on his diploma, writing in "Critical Theory" and then marking "RETURN TO SENDER" across the central body as a protest of Harvard and other such universities. "People will say 'this is just a stunt, you still have a degree' and that's fine. I went, I got the degree, I walked to the classes and all that, but I hope this is a statement that as conservatives and patriots, if we love this country, we can't keep sending our kids and elevating them to universities that are poisoning their mind. I may have survived it, but a lot of kids go there and buy into 'critical theory university,' and that's how we get future leaders, Supreme Court Justices, Senators, others, who see America as an evil place. And Harvard is a factory for that kind of thinking" he said. Hegseth then declared his intention to return the diploma to Harvard.

Anyway, this incident with the Yemen attack, while worth revealing, is not the reason for the smear campaign that has been waged against him by the Democrats and media now and from the beginning He represents a danger to people who have long comfortably played the game. He is not a squeaky clean non entity. He is a person of beliefs, which I, and I hope most of us agree about. We want a defense department devoted to their mission. Do a little reading about the personal nuttiness of some of our great general. They were nutty from time to time. Who else devotes themselves to winning battles and wars . I have full confidence he will get done what he has set out to do. Compared to his predessesors he can't do worse.

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Sophie Nusslé's avatar

I don't care where he went. I went to Oxford, right? I have heaps of professional experience after that. But I wouldn't think I'm qualified to run the defence department of my country, despite spending years in a war theatre, because I'm not.

And nor is Hegseth. In addition, he left two organisations in bad financial trouble and he's known as an addict. That's without counting accusations of rape and sexual abuse, which I know many men don't really care about (all political parties). But it does count because most men and women in the US armed forces don't like it.

Above all, his inexperience is showing all the way around the world. If you don't think that's a problem, fine. It's your (lack of) security, your country. I wouldn't want anyone like that in charge. I think it's mad he's in charge of the biggest army on earth.

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Sophie Nusslé's avatar

“a media-obsessed boss who thinks loyalty matters more than judgment, and optics matter more than outcome.”

The optics on Hegseth and the Pentagon chaos are pretty awful as well.

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